Sunday, January 23, 2011

"Emel-Land" and the Rise of the London Haskalah

Written by Karima Hamdan

In our media-driven society, a new strand of democracy has become widespread, in which community leaders are no longer selected by a transparent electoral process but rather self-appointed or anointed to the role merely because of their high profiles on television, computer screens or the radio.

However flawed this may sound, this is the reality of 2011 Britain and, by this definition, the recent interviews for The Times, the BBC and numerous other international media outlets given by Sarah Joseph, CEO and editor of "Muslim lifestyle" magazine Emel, demonstrate that she is considered one of these new community leaders. This role has led her to be listed as one of the UK's most powerful Muslims in the Muslim Power 100 by Carter Andersen, and as one of the World's 500 most influential Muslims by the Royal Islamic Strategic Studies Center.

Don't get me wrong, this can be viewed in a broadly positive light. Sarah Joseph is articulate, intelligent and her marriage into the British Bengali community provides her with a unique insight into her own journey as a convert as well as a window into an established Muslim community. It certainly comes as a breath of fresh air to have someone on the television or radio who, when they open their mouth, is neither preaching hatred nor openly telling people to rid themselves of the Quran and Sunnah.

However, unlike democratically elected leaders who have to stand on a manifesto and define themselves to their electorate, those who help themselves to the media spotlight often don't get or take the opportunity to reveal where they are coming from and/or are not held up to the same scrutiny.

As the editor of a magazine, Sarah Joseph has every right to include and exclude whatever content she wishes in Emel, whether it be interviews with pretty Arab princesses promoting their favourite charity or the latest environmental craze, and provide for the needs of her self-selected and willing readership. But when she steps outside of this role and becomes the "prominent female figurehead for British Muslims" as she now is, this cosy relationship evaporates and she must accept that her every word will be closely scrutinised and may well attract criticism. Sarah Joseph is well aware of this and in fact used an interview in 2005 to demand better, more representative and responsible leadership from British imams and scholars. Today I echo this demand - not to the imams - but rather directly to her.

However, before we can scrutinise her performance in the media and evaluate her ability to represent us all, we must first attempt to generate her manifesto to better define who she is, a process best achieved through looking to the most visible product of her labours, Emel magazine.

When Emel was first launched back in 2003, there was all the gloss and glamour that still appears in more current editions, but intermixed with this were some interesting insights and references to the real world of actually living Islam in the UK. So we had the 2004 editorial discussing the rise of the BNP, coupled with some very good articles by her in the mainstream press, like this one from 2006 about the offensive cartoons of our beloved Prophet (peace be upon him) that cited the vilification of the Jews in Europe in the decades leading up to the Holocaust and eloquently pointed out that "the great shape-shifter of fascism seems to have taken on the clothes of 'freedom of speech'".

In these early years, Emel's overall mix of fashion, home decoration, human interest stories with a light dusting of politics and Islam was admittedly quite lightweight but the overall effect was pleasing enough, although the presence of characters like Ziauddin Sardar and his reformationist ideas created a jarring note against this back drop of serenity. However, his columns were the exception rather than the norm and, more often than not, his remit was focused on politics rather than the deen. Over the intervening years however, whilst the fashion, recipes and car reviews have remained largely the same, the glue that holds the magazine together has coalesced into a postmodernist vision of Islam that Sarah Joseph appears to be peddling as some sort of "British Islam".

The concept of a "western" or "British" Islam has long been the holy grail of many Muslims living in the UK. Fed up with speeches in alien languages or strange subcontinental cultural practices passed off as Islamic, many British-born Muslims hankered after an Islam that was pure and free of deviation. Whilst this is a laudable aim, it can only result in success when one realises that of all the cultural baggage that influences Muslims, by far the most intrusive, invasive and tenacious is the baggage of the most dominant culture on the planet today: Western culture.

As with other influences, there is nothing inherently wrong with a great deal of what we find in the West – a Yorkshire pudding or a pair of trousers is not intrinsically subversive – but one must recognise that many facets of Western philosophy, such as postmodernism, are innately at odds with Islam.

For those unfamiliar with the subject, postmodernist philosophy essentially denies the existence of any ultimate guiding principles, being particularly sceptical of those claiming to be valid for all groups, cultures, traditions, or races. Instead, it promotes the idea that truth is a relative concept and each individual has the right to find his or her own version of it.

As Islam is the universal message provided by our Merciful Creator to all of humanity, one can quickly see how problematic postmodernist philosophy is. Yet the grubby fingerprints of this "ism" is to be found all over the pages of Emel as evidenced by a recent editorial in which Sarah Joseph equates the arrogance and disobedience of the refusal by Iblees (Satan) to bow down to Adam with the feeling that Islam is superior to other faiths:

"It is this sense of superiority that condemns another to hellfire, believing that only your own religious type will be saved."

Whilst I agree that smug self-satisfaction should be abhorrent to every Muslim, this editorial comes perilously close to declaring that Islam is no more true than any other belief.

Furthermore, this moral equivalence can be found in the opinions of other contributors to Emel like Lucy Bushill-Matthews, who in a recent article enthused about her daughter's indecision as to whether she wanted to be a Muslim when she attained adulthood:

"...she has decided she definitely wants to make her own choice. 'When I am older,' she says, 'I'm going to look at all the religions and see which one makes the most sense to me.' I wish her all the best in her research, although as a Muslim myself, it is only natural that I would hope she chooses Islam."

This struck me as a remarkably laid back attitude to take when discussing the eternal fate of one's daughter's soul but then I remembered that by the parameters of "Emel-land" I had just demonstrated some Satanic arrogance in "believing that only [my] own religious type will be saved".

In the same article, Bushill-Matthews laments the case of Fathima Rifqa Bary, a US teenager who left Islam for Christianity and ran away from home – instantly becoming a cause célèbre among Islamophobes and evangelical Christians as she alleged that she would be killed if she were returned to her parents. A terrified teenager on the run from dominating murderous parents – heartbreaking stuff, that is until one reads that both a Florida court and the Florida Department of Law Enforcement both thoroughly investigated Bary's claims and found that there was no credible evidence of any threat to her life or well-being. On reading such an article, one is left wondering why Bushill-Matthews feels the need to use fallacious anti-Muslim Tea Party-esque propaganda to bolster her cause?

One gets the distinct feeling that she and her editor believe that there should be no criticism or reproach or negativity directed at any individual who leaves Islam, and perhaps their parents, family and community should just shrug their collective shoulders and sheepishly mutter "Huh, kids these days" instead of feeling the frantic, earth-shattering despair at the calamity that their leaving Islam actually constitutes. Plainly the inconvenient fact, ignored by such postmodernist-Muslims living in their cloud cuckoo land full of western baggage, is that Islam is the Truth and whilst the decision of who is admitted to Heaven rests entirely with Allah, Islam provides us with the best hope of salvation.

So there we have it, the manifesto that Sarah Joseph appears to be promoting on our behalf is one of a compromised, postmodern-Islam that is akin to a succulent, sweet and nutritious fruit that has been ravaged until only the dry and desiccated pip is left.

In the JumahPulse the week before last, I opened with a critique of Sarah Joseph's performance on Radio 4's religion programme Sunday. To briefly reiterate, I took issue with the fact that she didn’t raise any specifically Muslim issues (unlike her Jewish and Catholic co-panelists who took the opportunity to highlight issues relevant to their communities) but rather confined herself to topics of interest to the general public. More disturbing was when one panellist (the editor of the Jewish Chronicle) attacked Muslims for spreading extremism on university campuses, Sarah Joseph did not offer a response and it was the Catholic columnist for the Independent on Sunday who pointed out that these stereotypes were unhelpful and often inaccurate.

Since then, Sarah Joseph has responded to this criticism on her Facebook page:

"I think if we continue to appear on the media only narrowly putting forward 'Muslim issues', speaking only for 'Muslims' and things which concern 'us' we will never truly put forward the message of Islam, which is a complete message for humanity.

"I think as Muslims we have more to say than being trapped into discussions about terrorism and radicalisation, and from audience feedback received following the show, I think I made the right decision to discuss broader issues.

"The 'reaction, reaction' media 'strategy' gets us nowhere, and we end up no more than actors in a script written for us by others."


This reinforces statements made in previous interviews in which she stated her desire to show that Islam was not just about "prayers and politics". This however misses an important point, namely that the public discourse in British society is essentially adversarial in nature. Look around: everything from the verbal fisticuffs our politicians indulge in during debates in the House of Commons, to the haranguing and arguing that is standard fare in all news and analysis programmes, to the multitude of reality TV shows where contestants have to constantly push their own agenda in order to "survive" another week. Everything is hotly debated with the winner being the one who fights their corner the most effectively.

When a person appears in the media and represents a community that has been vilified with everything from rampant paedophilia to collective homicidal tendencies and doesn't address any of these issues, even when confronted by someone speaking about them, it makes that person seem at the very least out of touch with reality and at worst, callously uncaring of what the average non-Muslim citizen is concerned about.

The Jewish community has long recognised the power of the media and one finds that whenever a member of that community has the collective microphone, the opportunity is utilised to speak for the benefit of their community.

In today's Britain, Muslims find themselves targeted by a far-right group whose raison-d'être is entirely based on hostility to Islam. We seek to find allies on the left but increasingly find ourselves isolated owing to concurrent attacks by a media juggernaut which labels Muslims and Islam as the antithesis of all that is civilised. Although as Muslims we have a duty to engage and interact with wider society and its debates in order to help all of humanity, we cannot hope to achieve this if we are simultaneously being targeted, slandered and vilified as a community. This is a phenomenon recognised and highlighted this week by none other than Conservative Party Chair, Baroness Warsi, when she described how in "civilised" circles the table talk is openly anti-Muslim.

Moreover, it is the unsettling reality that in today's society "the script" and narrative of our collective consciousness is tightly controlled. As Muslims, we cannot speak frankly about Islam's views on homosexuality without accusations of discrimination; we cannot criticise "the only democracy in the Middle East" without accusations of anti-Semitism; we cannot support women who choose to cover without accusations of repression and misogyny; we cannot protect our children from youth culture without being accused of child abuse and over-controlling; we cannot discuss any of the beauties of Islam without having first apologised out of collective guilt for the actions of a few; we cannot defend the integrity and position of our beloved guide and Prophet, (may Allah shower his peace and blessings continuously upon him) without being labelled as backward and misguided; we cannot defend the Quran without being accused of defending a text of terrorism and script for anti-Semitism; we cannot build places to worship the most High, glorified be He, without being accused of changing the very fabric of our host society and spoiling its skylines.

Yet, hey next year 11 models of electric car are coming out!! Wake up Sarah Joseph and to paraphrase a famous US election slogan: "it is the reaction, reaction media strategy stupid", or join the long list of community leader wannabes who have had their 15 minutes in the limelight and now have faded back into irrelevance.

There is an unfortunate precedent for this type of thinking. Before the brutal events of the Holocaust, European Jews suffered centuries of pogroms where they were scapegoated for any ailment of society. In this crucible of persecution associated with increasing ghettoisation of Jews, prominent Berlin Jewish philosophers and intellectuals, such as Moses Mendelssohn, embarked on a journey that grew into what is now known as the Berlin Haskalah, the Jewish Enlightenment, a movement that gained prominence and momentum the late 18th and early 19th centuries.

The Haskalah was a wide-ranging reform of Judaism that encompassed many facets but the principal ideas that the Haskalah introduced were:
  • a belief that the goal of religion was personal spiritual fulfillment;
  • a move away from law and obedience to love and community as the defining features of religion;
  • a belief that Judaism represented the highest form of morality but was backwards in other ways; 
  • a distinction between ritual and "true religion";
  • an emphasis on rationalism and science that drew heavily upon Enlightenment philosophies and writings where rationalism and science were seen as the highest moral authorities;
  • a belief that the future of Jews in Europe lay solely in the adoption of rationalism and reason over traditionalism and religious orthodoxy; and
  • a concern that European Jews should fully integrate with western society, whereas traditional Jewish customs made Jews too different from their neighbours.
The Berlin Haskalah resulted in the creation of secular Jewish culture which is manifested in the current split between "Reform" and "Orthodox" Judaism (for Muslims, "Moderate" and "Fundamentalist" seem to have been substituted), with the former emphasising Jewish history and Jewish identity, rather than religion. Despite these efforts, Europe's Jews could not avoid the Holocaust that befell them. Are we fated to follow in the same mould? Rather, we should heed Allah's warning as a lesson to us today so that we may attempt to protect ourselves, our family and our society from the inevitable destruction that will follow.

Abu Sa'id al-Khudri reported that Allah’s Messenger (may peace be upon him) warned: "You will tread the same path as was trodden by those before you inch by inch and step by step so much so that if they entered into a lizard's hole, you would follow them in this also. We said, 'Allah's Messenger, do you mean (by your words) the Jews and Christians before us?' He said, 'Who else?'"
(Sahih Muslim, Chapter 3, Book 34, No 6448)

May Allah guide us all back to His way: the way of the Prophets and the Saliheen (righteous people). Ameen.

32 comments:

  1. UK's most powerful Muslims in the Muslim Power 100 by Carter Andersen, and as one of the World's 500 most influential Muslims by the Royal Islamic Strategic Studies Center.

    A joke, right? What they mean is World’s 500 most influential House Muslims

    “ .. prominent female figurehead for British Muslims" – I think Karima Hamdan for this position than Sarah Joseph and I nominate Ms Karima Hamdan
    I wonder if this is not a case of I am representing Muslim women of XXXXX. When I phoned the centre of this place and asked who elected them I was told “we do not know. We do not know these women.” So I wrote to the group claiming to represent me as I was a resident of XXXXX. I did not receive an answer but they changed their title to (Ethnic group – best left unmentioned) women in XXXXX. I would like to add, I contacted the women of the ethnic group they claimed to represent and asked them. The result was even better than I had expected. Most women knew nothing about them and the rare few who knew about them, wanted in no way to be associated with them – a strong dislike. So perhaps Sarah Joseph can do the same, Decide which group she belongs to and ASK for their support.
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  2. Yeah, I didn't like this article. Go Emel - Woop!
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  3. Brilliant article, my sentiments completely. Why do we as Muslims from the Indian sub-continent have to be forced to rid ourselves of all Indo-Pak culture from Islam but allow Western/English Islam to prevail. Muslims have mistakenly allowed white converts to convince them that they understand Islam better than Muslims born into the faith as they do not come with their own cultural baggage. This is a fallacy, they come with their own English culture which when mixed into Islam is not always correct either, thus become guilty of the same. Muslims need to wake up and be proud to be Pakistani, Indian, Arab, etc. and not to allow this whole 'British Islam' being presented by the Government and the likes of Sarah Joseph to define us. Sarah has been making speeches telling Muslims to be concerned about their elderly English neighbours, not the people in Palestine. Why are we as Muslims so obsessed with foreign policy she has argued? Well we are an ummah and that body cares for each and every Muslim wherever he may be. It would appear to me that Sarah Joseph does not have the feeling or concern for the ummah.
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  4. I usually love Karima's articles, very intelligent and well written.

    But I feel this piece was possibly the lowest point the writer could go. Not because I have any special love for Emel. But the fact that the writer uses 'public discourse' to simply lay into Sarah and emel without possibly even getting in touch directly to discuss her thoughts and feelings.

    What this article says to me, is simply that Karima hates to see someone up there representing a type of Islam that she cannot accept. So yes, maybe Sarah was right in saying 'religious type'. But ultimately let us not go to the point of determining that emel push's some sort of perennialist thought - can we not have a good thought (excuses) for our sister in Islam?

    I also highly doubt Sarah pushed herself into the spotlight.

    Sarah runs a lifestyle magazine, not a political activist publication. Yes, it has some sprinkling of issues, but it largely appeals to a group of minority Muslims who love 'Islamic culture' (whatever that is). The beauty in that is that there is pluralism and this is something, Ms Karima - possibly hiding behind a pseudonym - cannot seem to accept.

    Don't forget, we were made into nations and tribes, we are different from each other. Our glue is Islam and we are Muslim by our shahada and practice. Sarah clearly is on the right side, I rather have her than Ed Hussain or Ali-Bhai brown spouting nonsense.

    Emel may not appeal to you, but it does appeal to others. Why not have your own magazine? Why not put yourself forward to represent the Muslims? You could open a YouTube channel and speak on these issues? You do have this website, but you can go on TV and represent your thoughts...

    Either join forces or help improve those in that situation (that is, if they want to change to your vision of Islam) or be the change you want to see in the world.

    Next time, why not ask Sarah these questions so she can answer them publicly or privately?

    I don't think this article has any benefit, for any reader. It is better to do dhikr or go out on a protest against Islamophobia than read, what essentially sounds like a jealous rant. It may be some nasiha for Sarah, but it is grossly misunderstands and fails recognise that people are different and have different lifestyles.

    The deen is far wider than you think, stop trying to pigeon hole and put people in boxes.
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  5. @Jameel Jidran - I think you have misunderstood the whole point of Karima's piece - she very clearly stated that Sarah should feel free to discuss what ever she wants in what ever way in the pages of Emel as the readership has endorsed her to do so buy purchasing the magazine.
    However when speaking outside this forum she has to realise this no longer applies, and whether "anointed or self-appointed" she has a responsibility to the wider community.
    If she feels her style or views can not fulfil this wider role then she should seriously consider confining herself to the pages where her views are acceptable/more appropriate.
    Similarly the wider community needs to understand where she is coming from in order to decide if she represents them or not.
    Its a simple point - one that everyone on "the platform" needs to consider.
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  6. "jealous rant" from Karima??
    Far from it - I think she at least understands that those in the media spotlight find themselves in a high risk position with regards their aarkhira - whatever they preach and is followed by others is on their heads in the end - good or bad - a position not to be envied in the slightest!!
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  7. Karima - chin up old girl - if people say things in a public forum you have a right to answer them publicly as there are already more than 2 people in the conversation - carry on standing up for transparency in the clouded media space.
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  8. @shahid - exactly...
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  9. Jameel yar its not about ML it is about wot goes on outside ML thats the problem
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  10. you all are forgetting that Sarah has an OBE - she must doing something right, musn't she??? :)
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  11. Good analysis - i listened to her on the Sunday program as well and she got off lightly - although the panelist and chairman of the discussion did not highlight her poor choice of discussion topics i am sure many listeners went away with the impression she was out of touch with reality - despite what her facebook/twitter/myspace etc groupies may have told her afterwards - keep going karima
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  12. @Jameel - the deen is indeed wide and the sahabah indeed differed on certain issues - but when you are asked to represent all muslims in the UK in a discussion, you have a duty to be as representative as you can. maybe she should preface any future speeches with the disclaimer that "these are my views and those of the readership of emel and may not be shared by the majority of muslims in the country"...
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  13. Karima your analysis is usually much better that this - I think you may be missing the real point here.
    Throughout you have portrayed Sarah as a dubious character somehow scheming to dupe ordinary Muslims into lending support for her clearly modernist ideology - BUT have stopped to consider that she may actually be sincere?
    I think what is more likely is that we have Darwinian selection of the fittest kind of thing going on here instead - indulge me if you would...
    The media moguls out there and the powers that be have engineered an environment of ideas in which we all have to inhabit - they dictate the parameters by what we see and read each day - into this mix we add people like Sarah who sincerely believe that a modernised and reformed Islam will be the best thing for all of us in order to survive. Because her way of thinking is more in tune with those of the media "environmental engineer's" than traditional islam - it is her ideas that grow and are selected to be given the limelight.
    In short she may well be a sincere modernist who is merely being manipulated by those around her to become their voice piece for the islamic reformation.
    So if I may be so bold to suggest that Karima you should try an uncover who her puppeteers are rather that trying to debate with the puppet?
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  14. A mixed set of comments. I think we are missing the point here and some of the comments here have highlight this fact.

    Regardless of her sincerity, and regardless of her puppeteers, it is important understand some key points.

    1) (from the article) you assume responsibility if speak for a group of people. Assumption of responsibility is a concept Tort lawyers will be familiar with - you step up to take responsibility then be prepared to face the full consequences - including the negative.

    2) A reformist agenda is being played and she and those who perhaps look up to her need the other side of the story. Even classical Ulama have opined that it is obligatory to refute a distortion of the deen in public, if it is uttered in public. Hence not only is this article NOT a waste of time it is essential.

    3) The comments are missing the core point of this article: you can reform a religion all you want - but they, the forces that be, will never be satisfied - and history is a testimony to this. Success is not in changing Islam to conform to the whims of the enemies of Islam, it is in changing ourselves to conform to Islam.
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  15. @CoolnessofHind

    Yes, exactly...

    Responsibility, Accountability, Entering the deen whole heartedly

    Wassalam
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  16. Salaam,

    One of the best writers out there - i'm proud that there are sisters like you Karima.

    I know Sarah Joseph personally and agree with everyone that she is a nice person. But "nice" is not what this is about.

    This is about preventing the warping of our faith and the impression others get of our faith through highly dubious articles and points.

    Would anyone be happy to read a magazine if most of it was good but was interspersed with the odd bit of pornography? Of course not. We would think it perverse. But if a magazine has articles that sells an illegitimate viewpoint of Islam (and sometimes comes painfully close to major sin) then it's ok? Wake up ppl.
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  17. Who died and made Karima Hamdan judge, jury and executioner of Sarah Joseph? What right do you have to decimate her character in public in a low-blow ad hominem attack? Are you a ward over her actions, intentions and most importantly sincerity?

    I just think it's really, really sad how Muslims waste so much time, passion and intellectual energy in cussing each other. If a decent amount of this was channelled into grasping the horns of the real bulls out there (which Karima does often do to be fair) we may actually get somewhere. I really feel the only creature to benefit from articles like these is Iblees who would be rubbing his hands in glee at kicking off a ruckus between Muslims and thus diverting them from more productive and fruitful concerns.

    As far as I'm aware Sarah Joseph is a good, sincere, practising Muslim who should be respected as such. Why not make Ayan Hirsi Ali or Irshad Manji or Pam Geller or Robert Spencer or Bat Ye'or or Melanie Phillips or any of the countless other public Islamophobes / weirdos out there the target of your next attack? Sarah Joseph, in comparison, appears a sanctified angel and if this 'modern, progressive reformist agenda' seems to be rubbing you up the wrong way, then how come I don't hear you subjecting to the same critique the recent Oxford "Rethinking Islamic Reform" conference addressed by Hamza Yusuf and Tariq Ramadan, for example? Why pick a relatively easier target? Oh - and to quote a single line from one of SJ's editorials out of context is unfair and disingenuous of Karima - a favourite technique of the Islamaphobes, not nice when used by Muslims against Muslims.

    Sarah Joseph has not asked for the limelight - she's progressively been given it on the basis of the service she's rendered the Muslim and wider community for decades. Her perspectives and outlook may be different from yours - but so what?? Do we really want a world full of Karimas (or any other monochrome shade) walking around? Why can't we accept the fact that there's more than one way to skin a cat and other people - who think, feel and act DIFFERENTLY to us may want to serve the same cause and work to benefit the Ummah and humanity at large in ways they sincerely feel are the best - yet DIFFERENT to what you feel? Is robotic, monotonous replication - intolerant of any difference - what we really want? Does this justify launching a public attack on Sarah Joseph?

    Karima, you generally like to finish with some hadith / pious utterances, so in a spirit of sincere nasiha I offer the following (addressed first & foremost to myself):

    "If a friend among your friends errs, make seventy excuses for them. If your hearts are unable to do this, then know that the shortcoming is in your own selves." Hamdun al-Qassar, one of the great early Muslims, as narrated by Imam Bayhaqi in his Shu`ab al-Iman [7.522].


    On the authority of Abu Hurairah, who said the messenger of Allah said:

    "Do not envy one another; do not inflate prices one to another; do not hate one another; do not turn away from one another; and do not undercut one another, but be you, O servants of Allah, brothers. A Muslim is the brother of a Muslim: he neither oppresses him nor does he fail him, he neither lies to him nor does he hold him in contempt. Piety is right here (and he pointed to his breast three times). It is evil enough for a man to hold his brother Muslim in contempt. The whole of a Muslim for another Muslim is inviolable: his blood, his property, and his honor."

    related by Muslim.
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  18. I am fed up with people defending modernists like Sarah Jospeh by criticising the right of others to criticise.

    If someone publically makes statements to undermine the agreed foundations of Islam or provides a platform (such as a magazine) for others to do so, it becomes incumbent and an Islamic duty to publically bring such people to account.

    Stop hiding behind arguments of adab and husnul dhann. Such principles are there to protect people's honour, not to give them a shield behind which they can throw doubt and confusion into Muslims' hearts.

    It seems that when such people are rumbled, they have no way to defend their post-modern mumbo-jumbo and resort to indignation and attempts to stifle criticism.

    If characters like Sarah Joseph are unwilling to take criticism they should stop providing platforms for people to make categorical statements and pronouncements on deen which they have no qualifications to make.
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  19. Husain Al-QadiFeb 5, 2011 03:52 AM
    @Annonymous [defender of SJ] Both of the Hadith you have quoted are not applicable in this context. They are in relation to individual errors that do not affect the wider community. Here the situation is completely different, SJ is proselytising her ill-conceived ideas through her magazine and providing a platform for like-minded individuals to do the same and therefore she is subject to an entirely different set of exhortations.


    The Prophet (sal Allahu alaihi wa sallam) said, “Whoever among you sees an evil action, then let him change it with his hand [by taking action]; if he cannot, then with his tongue [by speaking out]; and if he cannot, then with his heart – and that is the weakest of faith.”
    [Sahih Muslim]

    It was on the basis of such guidance that even the Caliph Omar [r.a.] was challenged in public for the mistakes he made - by a woman!

    As for the Oxford conference and easy targets, please rest assured that no one is above reproach at UmmahPulse and their time will come in due course. You should also know that while the world media decided to ignore the conference and not publish any reports on the proceedings, SJ was the most prolific tweeter of that conference and in so doing she did more to promote what happened in the conference than all the media put together.

    In a nutshell, this is what you need to understand: we will only target those who target Islam. If you don't want us to write about you in public then refrain from attacking or trying undermine Islam in public.
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  20. And despite it all... how many of you give a multitude of talks to promote interfaith dialogue, clarify the Western civilisation's warped portrayal of women's rights in Islam, explain how Muslims, too, are concerned with animal welfare and actively use the Prophet's teachings and the Qur'an to illustrate to those who are completely misguided by the misinterpretations and misrepresentations of Islam and Muslims to fellow mankind?

    How many of you slave day and night over piles of scripts to familiarise yourself with the case of a woman who has been wrongly accused and prosecuted for terrorism; attempting to provide the most concrete and honest witness testimonial to prevent a clear miscarriage of justice from occurring?

    Whilst you may critique "Emel-land", it was founded on the basis of providing a positive representation of Muslims and Islam - the antithesis of the severely twisted understanding that was circulating at the time. You may knock it for what you deem as being "postmodernist content", but it allowed for dialogue to take place - dialogue that was necessary in order to obtain some kind of perspective in the midst of chaos and disillusion. How many of you can say you've contributed something of this value to society?

    In your ignorance and naivety, you are all bound on burning bridges. Instead of respecting and publicly supporting your fellow mankind, you harvest and ignite the most ridiculous, absurd perceptions about those in your community who are genuine, honest and hard-working. No wonder the Ummah is flailing around blindly!

    Every day that Sarah Joseph is thrust into the spotlight, she willingly accepts the responsibility. Why? Because there is no one stood beside her. You don't like what she says? Then become an option. Instead of sitting behind your computer screens like cowards, get up and say what you have to say. In fact, say it to Sarah Joseph herself. emel's number is on their website - how many of you have the guts to call and speak to Sarah Joseph directly? To highlight your concerns and your reservations and your complaints?

    Not one of you. Why? Because not one of you have a single thing on Sarah Joseph. She far surpasses what your narrow-minded, self-obsessed, and victimised eyes can see. In truth, this community does not deserve her.
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  21. @Anonymous, 5 Feb,

    You can start by naming yourself if you are so concerned about hiding behind computer screens.

    Once again, pure emotional rhetoric. Answer the specific points of criticism: that Sarah Joseph and her post-modernist magazine are undermining the essentials of our faith in the way that Sister Karima's excellent article demonstrates.

    If Sarah Joseph has contributed in all the positive ways you mention then she should stick to what she's good at. What is the point of all that good work if at the same time you are sowing confusion in the hearts of believers regarding their deen? NOTHING can make up for that.

    Answer these critical points if you truly wish to defend Sarah Joseph, rather than shallow emotional rhetoric.
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  22. @ Atomic Ant

    Anonymous, 5 Feb does not need to hide any longer, as its clear from his style and reference points who he probably is - publisher of emel - none other than Mahmud Al-Rashid - husband to SJ - not really an impartial voice then?

    Any way - carry on with emel if you must - but don't try to represent the non-emel reading majority of muslims in this country with your post-modernist Islamic views.
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  23. Brother Hasan al Qadi - you da man, well said yar. U sound like u know your suff (r u a shaikh?) - wot about those who do loads of "good" things but in their heart is deviation of their manhaj and iman - wot about their good deeds then? wipe out init?
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  24. Husain Al-QadiFeb 5, 2011 09:40 AM
    @Anonymous, 5 Feb, What most of these people don't realise is that it is the very interfaith dialogue that they so proudly refer to, that has corrupted their faith and clouded their vision. While they thought that they were changing the perceptions and minds of those they addressed in interfaith dialogue, it was they themselves who were being changed in a complex game of reversed psychology. If you look at the track record of every one of the post-modernist crack-pots trying to be reformers of Islam today you will find that they all lost their way while sitting on the interfaith bus not knowing who the driver was or where the journey ends. Everyone of them, from Tariq Ramadan and Usama Hasan to Sarah Joseph and scores more, they all are sad products of the same unfortunate journey.
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  25. There is a college in Cambridge that seems to be training ulama on how to become a modernist and how to reform Islam. Have you people seen it. One of the teachers is Usama Hasan...no need to say more!!!
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  26. If you are so concerned with naming names, "Atomic Ant", I urge you to lead by example...

    Why is Sarah Joseph and her emel post-modernist? Because they encourage discussion, promote confidence and accept a reality that everyone else is too afraid embrace?

    Wake up and look around you. Muslims don't like good food? Or nice clothes? Or drive cars? Or take their children on holiday? emel is a LIFESTYLE magazine. It is not a newspaper or a political journal. If that is what you're after, go somewhere else.

    If people are confused by Sarah Joseph, they should ask her questions. I have heard her talks and she publicly declares at the end of every talk that whatever good she has spoken has come from God, and the mistakes, her own. Sounds like a reasonable person to me. So why not walk the path of communication that she has so clearly laid out? Instead of putting out completely misguided notions of her and what she stands for in cyber space.

    Use your common sense, people - it was given to you for a reason. No one is sowing confusion into the hearts of any believer; your deen is your OWN. Take the necessary steps to embrace it for YOURSELF. Not through anyone else or whatever they might practice.

    Karima makes a valid point, "the decision of who is admitted to Heaven rests entirely with Allah." As do the actions and intentions of every individual on this earth.

    Point the finger, by all means. But take note of the three pointing back in your direction.
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  27. @Anonymous, 5 Feb,

    I think you are confused. I asked you to name yourself because it is you who made a point of people hiding behind computer screens, not me.

    And if you are trying to say that no one is sowing confusion into the hearts of Muslims, you need to read up on Shaytan! They were trying it in the time of the Prophet (SAW) so you don't think they are trying it now? (Note - I'm not saying Sarah Joseph is a shaytaan or a follower of shaytaan before you get even more agitated).

    As for why Karima is accusing Sarah Joseph and Emel of being post-modernist, I suggest you read the article again and answer the specific points rather than rant:

    "It is this sense of superiority that condemns another to hellfire, believing that only your own religious type will be saved."

    It is an indisputable article of our faith that Islam is the only acceptable path in Allah's sight:

    "Verily the religion before Allah is Islam." (S.3, V.19)

    If you have been tainted by post-modernist thought you will find this point VERY difficult to come to terms with.

    Ma'assalaam.
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  28. @Husain Al-Qadi - Your insight is always a ray anmongst dark clouds masha'Allah.

    @ Anon 05 February, 2011 18:36

    Please refer to my comment above (28 January, 2011 18:47 )

    Most of your points are answered there. Instead of blindingly defending the sister, accept some facts. The reality is that Karima has maintained her balance and given her due where she deserves it, both good and bad.

    As for claims of "misguided notions", all of what is written above is referenced and can be checked your self.

    Further your statement:

    "No one is sowing confusion into the hearts of any believer; your deen is your OWN. Take the necessary steps to embrace it for YOURSELF. Not through anyone else or whatever they might practice."

    This concerns me. It seems to hint at the post-modernist blurb highlighted in the article. I always understood the Deen to be taken from the Ulama for as the Prophet Sallalahu alayhiwasalam said,

    "al-Ulama warathatul ambiya" The Ulama are heirs of the Prophets. (AS) The Messenger of Allah Sallalahu Alayhi Wassalam bequethed the knowledge of Islam to his Companions (radhialla'anhum) and they to next generation and they further to the followers of the "next generation". The righteous Ulama of the salaf and the Khalaf took this Deen directly from the Messenger via these generations.

    Are you trying to suggest by your statement that we are not to follow the Deen as explained to us by the scholars of the Ummah - that we are to find our "own" practice of it?

    Further, the nature of "following" is an intrinsic human behaviour, hence those who understand "role-models" will know that people will end up following any personality who can exert the right level influence and seeth through their teachings distortions, immorality or conversely, good. How do you think the Qadiyaniyoon were formed?

    Once you have comprehended this, then you understand that words, lax phrases, a laid back attitude to something as major as the presence of Iman ferments the laid back attitude in others - especially those whom over you have an influence. Not everyone can make their Deen their "own". Not everyone has the capacity to critically analyse statements and deduce the implications of them.

    Caution must be taken especially when you are a public figure.
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  29. Karima,

    As with your other articles, a greatly written piece. You have a true gift for writing alhamdulillah but your research skills let you down. If you knew Sarah personally you would be disappointed with what you have written. Please be careful when mentioning personalities that you don't get them confused with other identities.

    Wassalam.
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  30. Really disappointed with the sneering tone of this article. I've long been a fan of Ummah Pulse, but I am increasingly put off by the nature of its attacks on brothers and sisters who are trying to achieve something positive in the public discourse- from people who aren't really contributing anything. Yes, these people make mistakes and have shortcomings, but the nature in which you expose these is growing increasingly off-putting- surely there's an adab and etiquette to be followed in these matters; rather than writing sarky articles behind pseudonyms (?)

    Think an earlier commentator says it well:

    "Every day that Sarah Joseph is thrust into the spotlight, she willingly accepts the responsibility. Why? Because there is no one stood beside her. You don't like what she says? Then become an option. Instead of sitting behind your computer screens like cowards, get up and say what you have to say. In fact, say it to Sarah Joseph herself. emel's number is on their website - how many of you have the guts to call and speak to Sarah Joseph directly? To highlight your concerns and your reservations and your complaints?"
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  31. @Annymous 18 February, 2011 14:26 As an ealier commentator said it well:

    Sarah Joseph "is proselytising her ill-conceived ideas through her magazine and providing a platform for like-minded individuals to do the same and therefore she is subject to an entirely different set of exhortations.


    The Prophet (sal Allahu alaihi wa sallam) said, “Whoever among you sees an evil action, then let him change it with his hand [by taking action]; if he cannot, then with his tongue [by speaking out]; and if he cannot, then with his heart – and that is the weakest of faith.”
    [Sahih Muslim]

    It was on the basis of such guidance that even the Caliph Omar [r.a.] was challenged in public for the mistakes he made - by a woman!

    As for the Oxford conference and easy targets, please rest assured that no one is above reproach at UmmahPulse and their time will come in due course. You should also know that while the world media decided to ignore the conference and not publish any reports on the proceedings, SJ was the most prolific tweeter of that conference and in so doing she did more to promote what happened in the conference than all the media put together.

    In a nutshell, this is what you need to understand: we will only target those who target Islam. If you don't want us to write about you in public then refrain from attacking or trying undermine Islam in public.
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  32. This article is a real breath of fresh air!

    Cultural Baggage cuts both ways, & there is No such thing as a cultural vacuum.

    Islam transcends time & place, & a living Ummah has more in common with one another than the tribal (national) affiliations that comprise its parts. If not, it will shear apart & become assimilated.
    Of course, over a ,long,long time, just like a river coloured by the river bed, a barely discernable local hue will be witnessed.
    The hue will be dominated by the elements that make it up & how they interact. The fact is that the current British Muslim community IS primarily of South Asian heritage, & there is no need to be ashamed of that, after all these communities have survived the course of time.
    There is a danger that like the "primitive" eastern Jews & Christians coming into contact with "superior" Greco-Roman Europe, self-hatred will lead to adoption of the "higher civilization" e.g. representational art & pagan hedonist holidays.
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